Drew-
" an order of monks . . punished by having to learn a huge amount of purposeless information . . zach barth . . achieving mastery, but about what? "
talking about language, i remember we get stuck on this topic a little bit and i try to defuse it some what?? listening...

droqen
- Terrell is very interested in the process of learning and how people learn things
- so my struggle with gameplay: it is this sort of hollow, empty, aesthetic of learning without all the other parts of learning
- what if we made an object that gave us the aesthetic pleasure of feeling as though we were learning or doing something with purpose
- is it right to create an artifact that produces that sensation in the absence of anything that actually justifies that we're doing anything purposeful

yeah yeah yeah i mean i'm literally the one who said it lol but i'm surprised this coheres, fuck yeah, good job me

" our working definition . . gameplay is 'the player actions that instantly shape the outcomes that are measured by the games system to determine wins, losses, and score' . . is that gameplay? does it have to be? as The End of Gameplay puts it, 'Who Could Want Gameplay?' "

Drew introduces the episode by saying the game is out!! And here we are at the height of the Flower Moon, yes we are. I think this is interesting, I just want to see... where this goes. What do I say about this? What does Drew?

"the kind of gameplay droqen doesn't want to make anymore" -1:20

I want to know again by my senses who someone is, before I open them.

The quiet era approaches. Let such a dream of focus settle upon my shoulders. Eyes closed. Who is touching the back of my hand? Whose hand am I holding?

I want to be reborn.

"face your fears" is the old phrase, i guess, but it's too old

and besides it is lacking this vital everyday quality. and, too, this breaking-things-up piece.

but maybe a new thing is that the goal ultimately is to love facing these scary things... i wish there was a great phrase that came to mind for me, something really STICKY